Re: [tied] Dog

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From: Catherine Hagemann

To: cybalist@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 8:54 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Dog

The Greek word is actually tho:s, Gen. tho:os (< *tho:u-) 'jackal' (occasionally also 'leopard' or 'African hunting dog'). Jackals are native to the Balkans and the Greeks were surely familiar with them at an early date. I'm not sure if there is an accepted etymology, but I think that if the word is IE at all, it may be something like 'strangler' (Gothic dauthus 'death', dauthjan 'kill', Slavic *daviti 'kill, strangle', OIrish duine 'mortal'). The English cognate would of course be "death" rather than "dog".

 

"Hog" is indeed of Celtic (Brythonic) origin, which doesn't mean that anything that rhymes with it must be Celtic too. If Joao thinks "dog" might be a Celtic loanword, he should propose a specific Celtic source for it. Anyway, since there is no evidence of a pre-tenth-century word ancestral to "dog", speculating on its IE origin seems to be a waste of time. Even in early English "hund" was the the ordinary 'dog' word.

 

"Sirius" is a Latinised version of Greek seirios 'scorching' from seiraino: 'dry up, parch'.

 

Piotr

 

 

 

 

It is certainly something to think about,is'nt it?.
Catherine

João Simões Lopes Filho wrote:
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> Can DOG (DOCGA) be cognate of Greek THOUS "jackal, fox" ?
> Or DOG can be from Celtic? Compare HOG with Welsh HWCH (Old HUCC) and Cornic
> HOGH <Celtic *SU(:)CCOS
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> Joao SL
> Rio
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