Re: [tied] Re: Gimbutas.

>Piotr wrote:
>> Renfrew thinks they did speak PIE already in Anatolia, and that
>the first Neolithic arrivals in Greece were IE. I agree with what John
>says and what most archaeologists seem to believe about Linear
>Pottery: "They developed in situ from a process of neolithicisation
>of pre-existing mesolithic cultures." There is enough cultural
>discontinuity between Starchevo and LP despite all the similarities
>to make this hypothesis acceptable. I suppose the LP-makers were
>originally riverside dwellers who were expert at exploiting woodlands
>and the resources of river valleys, and had the good fortune to live
>in areas in which the southern farmers had little direct interest.


>There is a good deal of evidence which suggests that the Mesolithic
>peoples of the Danubian Gorge culture developed as Danubian 1. I can
>post the evidence up if people want to see it for themselves.
>Furthermore there is evidence that the Murzak-Koba culture, from which
>both the Bug-Dneistr and the Don-Donetz mesolithic cultures, together
>with the mesolithic hunter-fishers of the Urals, also derived
>ultimately from the coastal fishers of the Franchthi cave culture of
>the Aegean. As climates warmed with the end of the Ice Age there was
>a general movement of mesolithic cultures from the south to the north,
>as climates ameliorated. With the evidence that you posted Piotr on
>the cultures of central Asia, it would seem that the mesolithic
>peoples even of the Irytush and ultimately the Siberian zone of
>the northern Altai mountains also came from this region.
>This would suggest a dialect chain that ultimately became separate
>languages
>
>Tyrrhenian (Anatolia, Balkans)
>
> to
>
> Danubian cultures (languages unknown)
>
> to
>
> Proto-Indo-European (Pontic Steppe)
>
> to
>
> Uralic Yukaghir (Trans Urals)
>
> to
>
> Altaic (Iyrtush, Nthn Altai Mountains)

Very interesting!

Marc

>This makes sense of the mesolithic cultures out of which various
>neolithic movements occurred.
>I have a map showing these connections, based upon accurate site
>dates if anyone is interested. Regards John