From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 3068
Date: 2000-08-11
----- Original Message -----From: Mark OdegardSent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:15 AMSubject: Re: [tied] Re: Gimbutas.I contemplated a similar scenario, but the split between the Anatolian branch and the rest of IE seems to be too deep for that and indicates an early geographical separation plus the necessity to allow sufficient time for the rest of the family to develop shared innovations before IE underwent further fragmentation.The parallel valleys of the Dniester, the Prut and the Siret offer easy routes that lead you straight to the NW coast of the Black Sea, and the LP people discovered them very quickly. But I'd be cautious about this pastoralist apprenticeship in the steppe. From recent publications I get the impression that the history of steppe pastoralism will have to be written again from scratch.Piotr
From: Piotr Gasiorowski5500-5300 BC. Groups of PIE-speaking LP (Linear Pottery) farmers migrate from the Middle Danube Valley into Central Europe and establish a network of settlements along the loess belt of the N European Plain (from the Rhein to the Vistula). The linguistic ancestors of the Anatolians stay behind. ...Mark comments:If this is to be the pattern, I question leaving Anatolic behind in the Middle Danube. One rather looks to see Anatolic down at the Dneister delta, or at least, having a relationship to the steppe peoples, one that ends with the advent of Indo-Iranian.I envision a historical conveyer belt along the Dneister: first Anatolian, which moves south of the Danube and eventually into NW Anatolia, to end up in central and eastern Anatolia. The second wave is Greek-Armenian-Phrygian. The third is Dacian and Thracian. All of them seem to have spent some time on the steppe as pastoralists.