Dacian; Thracian and Romanian.

From: Mark Odegard
Message: 2668
Date: 2000-06-18

Mataoanu Andrei's question mainly involves Romanian ethnogenesis -- a topic that seems to generate some intra-Balkan controversy.
 
In English, Dacian and Thracian refers to two peoples and to two languages. 
 
The evidence for the languages is extremely meagre. About all the historical linguists can say is that they are definitely in the Indo-European family, and that both have been extinct for some considerable time.
 
As a people, the Dacians (occupying the modern part of Romania facing the Black Sea) are rather obscure. The Thracians (occupying modern Bulgaria), however, are well attested. Their history is one of inter-tribal warfare, and a consequent inability to attain political unity (this is pretty much the case for the Greeks too, tho' the Greeks did unite when absolutely necessary).
 
Historically, these regions of Bulgaria and Romania have undergone several reasonably well-attested complete language-replacements.
 
As for Romanian, I've see a few 'nationalistic' accounts of its origin, but there are some real obscurities. Did it originate in Transylvania with a subsequent migration over the Transylvian Alps/Iron Gate, or did it emerge in Dacia?
 
Linguistically, Romanian is definately one of the Romance languages -- East Romance is the term I've seen used in English. The Romanian language is also the essential ethnic marker of a Romanian. In geographic terms, it's OK to call Romanians Dacians, but this is a little narrow (what of the Wallachians and Transylvanians?).  'Genetic' arguments for ethnicity are always the hardest to prove, and the most prone to abuse. It's like asking if King Ferdinand was a Romanian or not.
 
Mark.