Re: [TIED] Dennis on Glen (was Hebrew and Arabic)

>If Semites were to travel to the Balkans by 6000-5000 BCE as Glen

Ever get the feeling that John has a brain tick? Semites and Semitish are
not the same thing, for the one millionth time, thank you very much.

>Yet in actual practice we find that the PIE words have more in common
>with Akkadian than with any other of the Semitic languages.

Wrong. Some yes, some no. It requires thought to sift the good ones from the
bad.

>On the other hand Greek pelekus
>and Sandscrit *parasu have been compared to the Akkadian *pillaq-
>meaning "spike", itself a word which id derived from the Sumerian
>balag,

A late loanword that has nothing to do with this topic.

>There is also the Akkadian *sarpu meaning silver, which has been >linked to
>proto-Germanic.

Late loanword again and probably very indirectly connectable to /sarpu/ if
at all. By the way, the word is actually attested in writing so there is no
need to give it an asterisk.

>Indeed, many of the so-called Semitic loans in PIE have a Sumerian >rather
>than a proto-Semitic origin. Thus proto-IE *reudh (red), has a >similarity
>to Sumerian *urud (copper), which again seems to come to >both languages
>from an unknown third source.

Akkadian e:ru = "metal"

>Thus the Semitic *tawru (ox) has been linked with PIE *(s)tauro, and
>as Glen keeps reminding us Semitic seven *sab with PIE *septm. But
>*tauru also has links with other Near Eastern languages also.

Please Mr. Language-Expert, list the other supposed links with examples. I
flat out dare you...

>Another example. Proto-IE *kwelkwlo (wheel) has been linked to
>Akkadian Semitic galgal. But this word seems derived from Sumerian
>gigir and even Kartvellian grgar.

Oh god. This word appears native to IE and based on *kWel-. The book says
"Semitic *galgal-" and not "Akkadian Semitic", you big fibber. One might
suppose Semitic *galgal- entered into Kartvelian *grgar and then, via
Akkadian, entered into Sumerian as gigir. It would be tempting to presume
that Semitic *galgal- in part influenced the formation of *kWekWlo- (not
**kWelkWlo-) by borrowing and later confusion with *kWel- "to rotate" but
there is alot against such a connection.

>1. In which language group does the etymology have the deepest roots,

Semitic, case closed.

>I hope the linguistic section above holds greater weight for you.

Not for me. You're simply quoting from one source that is partly outdated in
this regard.

- gLeN

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