Re: [cybalist] Re: Easter

From: Steve Woodson
Message: 2230
Date: 2000-04-28

John Croft wrote:

> > Piotr wrote:
> >
> > Certainly, but the archaeological evidence points to Scythian
> raids
> > rather than prolonged visits, not to mention stable settlement.
> Such
> events
> > could hardly have left any traces in the toponymy of the lands in
> question.
>
> It may not have left any toponymic influences, but it is supposed by
> Art Historians to have had a huge influence upon Scytho-Celtic art
> styles. The Scythian animal style is supposed to have had a huge
> influence upon Celtic animal figures (eg the Gundesrup caldron),
> lasting well into Dark Age Pictish art, and hence inflencing the Book
> of Kells and other works.
>
> Others trace a Scythian-Celtic fusion in such people as the
> Bastarnae,
> and even in the Boii (from whom Bohemia took its name).
> Nevertheless,
> the Scythian influence in La Tene Art was possibly through trade
> goods
> (though what trade goods Scythians could have provided to the Celtic
> peoples has never, to my knowledge, been established. (Horses
> perhaps?)) Presumably trade goods move in advance of language, so
> any
> linguistic influences may be minimal.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
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John
There seems to be some indecision as to whether the Bastarnae were
Celtic or Germanic. I've read both points of view depending on the leanings
of the author, it seems. Reguardless most consider them a mixed group
including a Germanic/Illyrian mix. Tacitus said they were Germanic in
language and 'taking on the repulsive appearance of the Sarmatians' due to
mixed marriages. I would be very interested in anything anyone may have on
them.
Thanks,
Steve