Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: Nordwestblock

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From: Sergejus Tarasovas

To: cybalist@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:36 PM

Subject: [cybalist] Re: Odp: Odp: Nordwestblock

 

Verner's Law applies here, and the Germanic word for "people" is *TiuDa- (T & D = English voiceless and voiced th, respectively; cf. Gothic thiuda-, Old English theod). My guess is that the second stop would have been rendered as Latin d (cf. Charivaldus), and the first probably as aspirated th (as in the name of the Goths, Lat. Gothae). I'd bet on something like Theudones.

 

Piotr

 

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How do you think shifted stops would look like in Roman rendering? *s-s? *f-f? (or -z if the first syllable was unstressed in Germanic word and this letter and its Hellenistic phonetical meaning [z] (not [zd]/[dz]) had been already adapted?) Is there a consistent way of rendering dental fricatives in Classical Latin?

 

Sergei

 

 Who knows if the Teutons who joined the Cimbri in their southward raid in the late 2nd century BC weren't NWB-speakers rather than Germani proper. The unshifted stops of Teut- might suggest that (the usual story is that the name is of Celtic origin). Just a loose thought, don't take it too seriously.

 

Piotr