Re: Odp: Uralic

From: John Croft
Message: 1316
Date: 2000-02-01

Piotr wrote

As for Uralic (or more specifically Finno-Ugric) contacts with
Proto-)Iranians, they could have take place much farther north than
usually assumed. If the Fatyanovo culture (with its core area
stretching from the upper Volga to southeast of the River Oka) can be
associated with Aryan-speakers, some of those borrowings could have
been taken from Aryans living close to modern Pskov and Sankt-Peterburg
rather than Pontic steppe nomads. IE-speakers (carriers of the Corded
Ware/Battle Axe cultural package) seem to have been settling in
Estonia, Finland and eastern Sweden as early as 3200-2500 BC.

Here I believe we must be careful with equating particular cultures
with specific languages. I was always of the impression that the
Fatyanovo culture was a case of Uralics adopting features of the
Battle-Axe Corded Ware complex from their neighbours to the west and
south. The contact may have still occurred, but it doesn't necessarily
mean that IE speakers penetrated Finland and Eastern Sweden so early.

An interesting possibility though

John