Re: The Wends and the Venedi

From: John Croft
Message: 1138
Date: 2000-01-25

Thanks Piotr for the below.

There was also a Veneti in Britanny, and I understand, one in Iberia so
perhaps it may have come from a very early Hallstaat wave.

Regards

John
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> The majority of the Przeworsk area is located between the Vistula
and Elbe rivers. This is the area identified by Tacitus, in his
Germania, as settled by various Germanic tribes generally considered
Vandalic. It remained this way until the East Germanic peoples began
their migrations.
> As they abandoned an area they were replaced by the Slavs and
Balts. The Vandalic peoples were in the area until the 4th/5th
centuries. Some probably remained. When the Slavs moved into Silesia
(after the Silings) they met a people they called the Niemcy. This was
an old Slavic name for Germans. The area where they found them is
called Nimptsch and is located near Mt. Zobten. Mt. Zobten was one of
the Germans most sacred places, mentioned by Tacitus as being in the
land of the Naharvali.
> I know there is much difference of opinion about whether the
Przeworsk culture is Germanic or Slavic. Maybe it is both. Culture
sites have been found on the east bank of the Vistula. Border areas
were surely culture exchange areas. But I think it is primarily
Germanic.
> What about the preceeding Lausitz culture? Germanic? Slavic?
Maybe neither.
> Remains show a short statured mediterranean/armenoid people
beleived to have originally come from the southeast. Due to weather
and outside pressure (Scythian, Celt, and Teuton) the area was
abandoned around the third century B.C. It was into this void that the
Germanic peoples moved.
> Piotr, this is your home area. I would appreciate your input.
> One last thing, Piotr. In your post you mention that the
Veneti once were on the Baltic as traders. Do you know how extensive
their settlements were?
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