From: Christopher Gwinn
Message: 1000
Date: 2000-01-20
----- Original Message -----From: Marc VerhaegenSent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:32 PMSubject: [cybalist] Re: Submerged LanguagesMarc Verhaegen writes: Are there clear examples of Celtic influence in French? It's often stated, but I doubt it.I wrote: The standard term is "substratum" or "substrate". A substrate language is what you are describing as a "submerged language". A substratum language is spoken of when a population has undergone language replacement. In ancient France, Romance replaced the Celtic language of the Gauls, but left certain remains, both in vocabulary, and in phonology. In other circumstances, even a few grammatical elements are passed on to the successor language.If I go dig out some books, I should be able to come up with some toponyms and hydronyms. These are classic 'substratum' items. French is also said to have a Germanic superstratum. As I remember reading someplace once, this Germanic superstratum, combined with the then-recent Celtic substratum, permanently warped French phonology. I cannot cite anything to support this, however. Mark.Celtic toponyms & hydronyms, yes, but more than that? If we knew the differences between Gallo-Roman and other Roman dialects we could get an estimation of the Celtic influence, but I don't think it was much greater than the Amerindian influence upon American English, Spanish or Portuguese. I think Germanic influence (Franconian) can explain most of French phonology.
Marc
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