--- Andrew Dunbar <hippietrail@...> wrote:
> --- Nicholas Bodley <nbodley@...> wrote: >
> {Long-delayed reply}
> >
> > > There's no phoneme /��/. /hy/ --> [��].
> >

--Reply--
There IS a phoneme (IPA /��/ = UMRE /h��/ [where the
acute should be atop the <h>])���palatal <h>, which
often alternates with (IPA /x��/ [acute atop that <x>
= UMRE /k��h/ [<kh> digraph with acute atop the
<k>])���voiceless velaropalatal fricative!!

> > This reminds me of "Hyundai", which in spoken
> > advertising that I've heard
> > rhymes with "Sunday", as if there were no "y" in
> the
> > word.
> > That *must* be wrong.
>
> Here in Australia the original advertising used the
> pronunciation /haI.Un.daI/ or /haI.yUn.daI/. Then
> everything changed and the new advertising since has
> used the pronunciation /hyVndaI/ or possible
> /hyVndeI/. I guess /hyUnd{/ would be closer to the
> Korean pronunciation in English phonemes.
>

--Reply--
The Korean automaker name *Hyundai* is often heard as
either /huhnn-dey/ or /h��uhnn-deh/.
> > --
> > Nicholas Bodley /*|*\ Waltham, Mass.

So, palatal /h��/ often alternates with velaropalatal
/k��h/ (using broad UMRE notation). I hope this note
helps.
Thank You!

Robert Lloyd Wheelock
International Symbolism Research Institute
Augusta, ME U.S.A.





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