Peter T. Daniels scripsit:

> > >There's no phoneme /ç/. /hy/ --> [ç].
> >
> > Of course I did say "sound". ;-)
>
> But the comparison was with /Z/ !

If it comes to that, there are well-known varieties of English in
which one may well doubt that /Z/ exists either: it is either a
realization of /zj/, or a mere component of a unitary affricate
phoneme /dZ<ligature>/.

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