Michael Everson wrote:
>
> At 09:02 -0500 2003-12-11, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >Michael Everson wrote:
> >>
> >> At 08:39 -0500 2003-12-11, cowan@... wrote:
> >>
> >> >In addition, the status of Blissymbolics, Sutton Signwriting,and Braille
> >> >is debatable.
> >>
> >> Why? Blissymbolics are the *only* form of communication for some
> >> people.
> >
> >Name them.
>
> You want their personal names? I have personally
> met any number of non-speaking people, cerebral
> palsics mostly, who are unable to communicate
> linguistically with their friends, families, and
> carers without Blissymbolics.

And how are they able to communicate linguistically with them, or it, or
whatever, such that no writing system accessible to fully abled people
would also work?

> > >SignWriting is alive and kicking and getting
> >more and more popular worldwide.
> >
> >??
>
> Nicaragua, Spain, Scandinavia, Germany, and
> elsewhere, if that's what your question marks
> were eliciting.
>
> >It's a cult.
>
> Nonsense. This comment is ignorant. SignWriting
> is being taught to children in schools, who are
> able to write their native languages with it.
> This incidentally turns out to make it much
> easier to teach the children a second language
> and literacy in it. Volume 2 of The Irish Deaf
> Community: The structure of Irish Sign Language,
> by Dónall P. Ó Baoill and Patrick A. Matthews,
> published by Institiuid Teangeolaíochta Éireann,
> contains a glossary of ISL with SignWriting
> orthography. This work also compares SignWriting
> with HamNoSys and Stokoe and favours SignWriting
> strongly.

So the structure of the organization has completely changed over the
past decade, so that you don't need to pay considerable registration
fees to learn to use it, and to promise you won't share the teaching
materials with anyone else, and to in effect worship the inventor?

More importantly, has it somehow been moved beyond a mere iconic
representation of handshapes, to some sort of linguistic representation
of signed languages?
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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...