Re: Directionality of Sound changes

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From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@...>
Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:43 am
Subject: [phoNet] Re: Directionality of Sound changes

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> --- In phoNet@yahoogroups.com, "H.M.Hubey"
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> > Richard Wordingham wrote:
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> > > --- In phoNet@yahoogroups.com, "H.M. Hubey"
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> > > > Richard Wordingham wrote:
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> > > > >It still fits into the "nearest-
> neighbor" shift pattern.
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> > > > > So does [S] > [s] !
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> > > > Don't think so.
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> > > I've dug up some examples of [r'] > [z] and of [Z]
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> > > them at http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1627.html
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> > > 'Similarly, it is not hard to get from a palatal /r'/ to
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> > > Some Polish dialects change */z^/ to /z/
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> > what is the star? you recall what I said?
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> > > and later most Polish
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> > > dialects change */r'/ to /z^/.
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> Were the asterisks needed at
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> <http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1627.html>? Is it
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> that the mazurzenie dialects never had hushes?
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If I am wondering about classifying various changes
into some rules and wondering what kind of changes take
place for what reason so that I can use to results for
judging reconstructions, for what reason would I use
reconstructed sound changes other than so that future
reconstructions will be just like past reconstructions'
done by some people?

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> What about the shift r' > z^? Is the starting point there
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> attested? I had assumed that, since it occurs in loan words (and
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> The Indian example (a 3-way collapse!) still stands.
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> Richard.
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