--- In phoNet@yahoogroups.com, Robert B Wilson <han_solo55@j...>
> > It's my perception that I have no [A] (if 'A' is the round,
> > most open, back vowel),
> [A] is unrounded.

Yes, thanks to Richard directing me to the SAMPA page I now
realize that.

> how do you pronounce words like 'long', 'song', etr.?

Thanks to your information, I now suppose it must be [lAN]
and [sAN], rather than [laN] and [saN] as I assumed before.