Hi, Lud,

I think you heard the final stage of the following simplification process:

-nd.m- --> -n.m- --> -m.m-

... just like "ten men" may become "tem men" in casual speech.

Piotr


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lud" <realcool@...>
To: <phoNet@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:11 AM
Subject: [phoNet] "new to the list"


hello, everyone!!!!

I'm new to this list.
My name is Lud, I'm a Brazilian guy and I'm into phonetics.
I'm glad I found a place like this to discuss it.

My first question is:
I was watching a movie where the children were afraid of the "sandman".
But both the adults and children pronnounced "sandman" as if the /nd/ sound is dropped (saman).
Is it really possible or did I mishear it (although I have already heard that "nd" and "nt" may be really dropped in some accents)?

Sincerely,
Lud.