Dear Stephen

How are you?

You wrote regarding my request "please describe what antaraabhavo
is":

You wrote:

"But the ball is in your court."

That would not solve any problem. The concept of antaraabhavo is not
part of the Buddha's teachings as I do not seem to find the term in
any Suttam when I searched through my Cha.t.tha Sangaayanaa Pali
Tipi.taka CD-ROM. If it were part of his teachings, he would have
used the term "antaraabhavo" explicitly as he did the
term "antaraaparinibbaayii", which refers to one way of how an
Anaagaamii (non-returner) can become an Arahant in Suddhaavaasa
Heaven. See Section 184, Mahaavaggo, Samyutta Nikaayo, for example.

As you are a believer in antaraabhavo, you still need to answer the
following questions.

Does antaraabhavo have the five aggregates? Or does it have only the
consciousness aggregate (viññaa.nakkhandho)?

I hope that my questions are fair to you.

With Noble Compassion (ariyakaru.naa),

Suan

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Hodge" <s.hodge@...> wrote:

Dear Suan,

> I thought that Bhante Yuttadhammo, Robert K and Rett had answered
> and resolved the issue of antaraabhava, thereby sparing me the
> obligation of dealing with it.
No, all that has been presented by these illustrious gentlemen are
assertions. We antaraabhava-vaadins have presented you with a number
of
suttas that imply the existence of the antaraabhava and arguments
from
reason refuting nirantaraabhava-vaada. Additionally, nobody has
*explained*
how rebirth occurs without any intervening element -- maybe it's
just me,
but I find the proposition to be absurd.


> please describe what an antaraabhava is
Nice try, Suan ! But the ball is in your court.

> It would be even better if you could quote a Sutta Pali that
contains
> the term "antarabhavo".
To reply in the style of Ven Yuttadhammo, just after the place where
the
Buddha speaks of bhavanga and javana.

Best wishes,
Stephen Hodge