Yong Peng,

The Pali word for "beggar" is yaacaka, and monks & nuns are now allowed to beg is not
allowed according to the Vinaya.

So we have semantic as well as ethical issues problems.

I have personally communicated this to Michael.

Or perhaps we can forget about Pali at least for this moment and humour ourselves.

Sukhi

Piya

Ong Yong Peng wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> thanks to Michael Olds, below is a nice little passage which he
> offers me offline, and I would like to share with everyone. This
> passage speaks of the value of solitude as a cherished Buddhist
> tradition:
>
> It is not brilliant, Ananda,
> for a beggar to resort to association,
> to resort to taking pleasure from association,
> to be intent on the pleasure of resorting with associates,
> to resort to gatherings,
> to resort to taking pleasure from gatherings,
> to enjoy gatherings.
>
> For a beggar, Ananda,
> who resorts to association,
> who resorts to taking pleasure from association,
> who is intent on the pleasure of resorting with associates,
> who resorts to gatherings,
> who resorts to taking pleasure from gatherings,
> who enjoys gatherings
> that such a one should get pleasure from renunciation,
> get pleasure from solitude,
> get pleasure from calm,
> get pleasure from self-awakening,
> that such a one should enjoy the pleasure
> of progress without trouble,
> without aggrivation —
> such a thing is not to be seen.
>
> But, Ananda, for a beggar,
> who lives alone,
> secluded from associations
> that such a one should get pleasure from renunciation,
> get pleasure from solitude,
> get pleasure from calm,
> get pleasure from self-awakening,
> that such a one should enjoy the pleasure
> of progress without trouble,
> without aggrivation —
> such a thing is to be seen.
>
> For a beggar, Ananda,
> who resorts to association,
> who resorts to taking pleasure from association,
> who is intent on the pleasure of resorting with associates,
> who resorts to gatherings,
> who resorts to taking pleasure from gatherings,
> who enjoys gatherings
> to enter into and reside in
> either the time-bound and happy,
> or the non-time-bound and unshakable hearts release —
> such a thing is not to be seen.
>
> But, Ananda, for a beggar,
> who lives alone,
> secluded from associations
> to enter into and reside in
> either the time-bound and happy,
> or the non-time-bound and unshakable hearts release —
> such a thing is to be seen.
>
> --MN 122
>
>
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