John Croft might agree with you as well since he doesn't feel that Nostratic's Urheimat was in the Middle East.  Also, if Afroasiatic is a sister group of Nostratic, is it an older sister or younger?
 
Gerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Howey
To: Nostratica@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Nostratica] Fw: Christmas things

Again, this is just a WAG on my part, but, based on how the daughter groups have dispersed and the fact that some researchers feel that Afroasiatic is not part of Nostratic but a sister group, I would think that Nostratic originated in or near the Caspian Sea region.  I have no information to back this up, just a guess on my part.
 
Andy Howey
-----Original Message-----
From: Geraldine Reinhardt [mailto:waluk@...]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 11:32
To: Nostratica@yahoogroups.com
Cc: jeffco
Subject: Re: [Nostratica] Fw: Christmas things

Thanks for your info Andy.  If the ancestral speakers of Nostratic didn't live in "northern regions" where is it that you think they lived?  I have also posted this to Jean Kelly.
 
Gerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Howey
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Nostratica] Fw: Christmas things

Hello, all:
 
This is just my uninformed guess, but I would think that "Christmas" and "Santa Claus", being basically Christian concepts that developed several thousand years after Nostratic ceased to exist as a distinct language or dialect group, wouldn't exist per se in Nostratic.  They may, as modern "heathens" still do, have observed the Summer and Winter Solstices and the Vernal and Autumnal Equinoxes, but that is is just a WAG on my part.  Depending on where the speakers of Nostratic lived, they may or may not have known about reindeer, which live in the far northern tundras of Eurasia and North America (caribou).  The current-day Sami (Lapps) of northern Scandinavia and Russia, being part of the Finno-Ugric or Uralic language family and thus a "daughter" of Nostratic, herd them, but I don't know if that can be considered an indication that any ancestral speakers of Nostratic would have lived in that region or otherwise had knowledge of reindeer.
 
Just my $.02 worth:
 
Andy Howey
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry [mailto:waluk@...]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:11
To: jeffco
Cc: Nostratica@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nostratica] Fw: Christmas things

Hi Jean,
I'll post your question to the group and maybe someone knows the answer. 
 
To all Nostratica folks,
 
Can anyone help out? The question is:  What, I wonder, would "Happy Christmas", "Santa Claus" and "reindeer" be in Nostratic?
 
Thanks,
Gerry
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jeffco
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nostratica] Fw: Christmas things

Hi Gerry -
 
Thanks for the card - which, for some inexplicable reason, I found absolutely mesmerising!
 
(What, I wonder, would "Happy Christmas", "Santa Claus" and "reindeer" be in Nostratic?)
 
Hope you enjoy the holiday too,

Best regards,
 
Jean Kelly

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