Xeon Saell,
Yews are trees usually found in Cemeteries here in England, but I know not why, and their branches were once used to make Bows for Arrows,  the rune Yr signifies a yew.
Dales were and still are Valles between either medium tall hills  and are visualised as representing a countrified - agricultural oops do I mean pastoral life
----- Original Message -----
From: xeon_ies
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: [norse_course] Re: English to Norse (sword names)

Thanks a lot for your help, Llama! I must think of some way to
"beautify" these names as they seem kind of awkward to the average
reader, though.

By the way, Ull's hall is called Ydalir and it translates to "Yew
Dales". What are Yews and Dales? Is it some kind of magical morning
dew or water droplet etc.?


> Hi Xeon,
> "Heiti" (poetic names) for bows:
> Almr, dalr, bogi, (elm, dale, bow)
> ýr ok tvíviðr, (yew and two-wood)
> sveigr, glær ok þrymr, (bent, sea?, stretch?)
> sómr, skálgelmir. (honour/fitness, bowl-?)
> "Stinger" might be 'biti' or 'bítr', but these seem to be prefered
> for sword names.  I don't know if there's a different word
> for "arch" that doen't mean "bow" as well, but 'bogi' seems to cover
> both.  'Dalr' must be from the curved shape of a valley, and perhaps
> by extension other curved things.  I've read one theory about the
> name Heimdallr that relates it to this, in the sense of "horn"--and
> in Hervarar saga, the Huns are said to have horn-bows.  So maybe
> that's the connection.  Sveigr is related to the verb sveigja "bend
> [a bow]".  Skál is a bowl--could that be a reference to the bow's
> curved shape too?
> 1) bogi/dalr/sveigr inn mikli (inn stóri).
> 2) undrbiti
> 3) biti inn efsti
> I don't know what -gelmir is.  It occurs in a lot of mythological
> names.  'Gellr' means "shrieks, twangs" (gjalla "to shriek/twang")
> and is the word used for the noise of a bowstring, so maybe you
> could include that as one element: Undrgjalli, or something like
> that.  Careful though: as we found out recently the Icelandic Hobbit
> translates Gollum as Gollnir!
> Not sure what 'sea' has to do with bows.  Could there be a
> connection with similar words for "glistening, splendour"
> and "amber"?
> Llama Nom
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "xeon_ies" <xeon@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Llama!
> >
> > I've decided to adopt the names Dugvandill and Harmbrenna for the
> > sword names.
> > And one more thing in which I'm thinking of giving a name to Ull's
> bow
> > too. :-D
> >
> > What does the following words translates to?
> >
> > 1) "The Great Arch"
> > 2) "Wonderous Stinger"
> > 3) "Final stinger"
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Xeon.

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