----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:12
PM
Subject: Re: [norse_course] Help! from
Jed
ok, found it.
it's from the new testament
translation of Oddur Gottskálksson, 1540.. i don't know if there is an older
version known, there doesn't have to be. (this is translated from german, i
believe, and there's a little bit of a german influence in it, specifically in
the 'Sa þu ert a himnum', that's not the usual way of forming that kind of a
sentence in icelandic, new or old)
Fader vor Sa þu ert a himnum /
Helgist nafn þitt / til kome þitt rike verdi þinn vilie svo a Jordu sem a
himne / gef oss i dag vort dagligt braud / & fyrelat oss vorar
skullder / svo sem vier fyrelatum vorum skulldu nautum / & inn leid oss
eigi i freistne helldr frelsa þu oss af illu / þviat þitt er rikit /
mattr & dyrd vm allder allda amen
don't let the spelling disturb your
reading.. it's 'stafrétt'.. that is, this is how it's written in that new
testament translation from 1540, it hasn't been changed. so, the d in Fader
would have been pronounced ð and so on and so forth, they just didn't have the
spelling conventions sorted out at that time. the double ll before d has an
explanation, as does the e in stead of i in endings.. but it's best to know
some icelandic paeleography to correctly read a text like this...
maybe you can get someone here to either find an older version than this, or
to change this to 'samræmd stafsetning forn', the standard 'old icelandic'
spelling. or maybe you know enough paeleography to use it like this, i hope
you do, it's the most comfortable way.
berglaug
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:46
PM
Subject: Re: [norse_course] Help! from
Jed
well, here's the modern icelandic
version.. i have an older one somewhere, but i'll have to look for it (it's
in a plie of papers.. somewhere in my bookshelves... (oh dear, that's quite
a lot of piles to search!))
berglaug
faðir vor, þú sem ert á
himnum
helgist þitt nafn, til komi þitt
ríki
verði þinn vilji, svo á jörðu sem
á himni
gef oss í dag vort daglegt
brauð
og fyrirgef oss vorar
skuldir
svo sem vér og
fyrirgefum
vorum skuldunautum
eigi leið þú oss í
freistni
heldur frelsa oss frá
illu
því að þitt er ríkið, mátturinn,
og dýrðin
að eilífu
amen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004
9:12 PM
Subject: [norse_course] Help! from
Jed
Dear All
I am preparing materials for a course I hope
to run on local/regional history and the development of the English
Language over the last 1500 years. As part of this course I want to show
how the English vocabulary has been affected by Latin, Greek and Old
Norse to such an extent that if the words derived from these
languages were suddenly to disappear from our lexicon, we would find
it impossible to speak or write in modern English.
For people who have no knowledge of any
language other than English, I need a text common to all lanuages
mentioned above to show how much of the vocabulary of each has
been incorporated one over the centuries, one way or another, into
English. I think the most familiar text will be the Lord's
prayer - 'Our father which art in heaven'......etc. I have copies of
these in Old English, Latin and Greek but not in Old Norse. Could any of
our Scandinavian colleagues oblige by sending this text through the
e-mail?
I would be very grateful.
Cheers
Jed
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