I wrote:

>>It's the first place I found Grettis saga Ásmundarson in the original,
>>which is easily one of my favourites - he was an antihero centuries before
>>anyone coined the term.

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>>Selvårv Stigård
>>List Administrator: Loki, Nidhstang, NordStudie and Redheads
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>> Why should I pay eight bucks to see a planet
>> violently ruled by mindless apes? I have CNN.

Keth replied:

>You are also a Gothic type, Selv.

I am? Well, I suppose I'm descended from Goths just like anyone else with
ancestors from continental Europe...

>Don't you think all that Loki stuff sounds a bit scary?

Less scary than Óðinn stuff :->

>Or do you also see Loki as an image
>of suppressed humanity tied with chains in deep caverns,
>and ruled by -- mindless apes? Well, if Loki is humanity,
>who are the apes?

Well, on the topic of Old Norse, Völuspá 35 (Codex Regius version) reads:

Haft sá hun liggja
undir Hveralundi,
lægjarns líki
Loka áþekkjan;
þar situr Sigyn,
þeygi um sínum
ver velglýjuð.
Vituð ér enn - eða hvað?

Note that last line is used in Völuspá when the völva has said something
she knows is valuable, and is asking Óðinn if he wants to hear more - the
first time she asks, he gives her armrings and gems, indicating that she's
using this phrase as the cliché "cross my palm with silver if you wish me
to continue" - so the fact that the one bound "lægjarns líki Loka áþekkjan"
is valuable information...

I don't know who is bound, but they look like Loki's appearance.

Incidentally, I don't know if it's hitting Norway right now as well, but a
remake of the movie Planet of the Apes just got released a couple weeks
ago, which is the reference for my sig comment.

-Selv

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Why should I pay eight bucks to see a planet
violently ruled by mindless apes? I have CNN.