Mr Menon,
There is a pattern asto how Sanskrit created dialects in a geographical area over the period, lets take timedepth as vertical parameter and geography as horizontal parameter, In india, recently, such dialects are given shape of language by producing grammar by the speakers of such dialects.
For Munda and Oraon, as I understood, the nouns and the roots are majorly taken from the pre-classical Sanskrit with a change in the way for forming adverbs and adjectives, however, there is pattern that can be decoded if a team comprising Sanskrit, Bengali, Orriya, Hindi and Chhatisgarhi experts helped by historians work together, With understanding the underlying pattern, Indian scholars may develop an indegenous tool to study historicity available in such dialects.
It's heartening that you are taking onus of conducting further research on Munda and Oraon.
Some fighter communities who sided with Kauravas in Mahabharata has been pused to deep forest areas in Eastern/Western India in a later date, they are not tribes in the sense, we find tribes in Africa.
Regards,
Lalit Mishra
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Dear Lalit,
You have a right to post your doubts and I did follow up on research. I understand your doubts and the reason for them and I thank you.
The Oraons, until recently, used the Devanagari script for their language / dialects. However, their language/ dialects pertains to the Elamo Dravidian family group.
See Omniglot for the new script devised by Dr.Oraon. (www.omniglot.com/writing/tolongsiki.htm)
Thanks for bringing up this issue. I posted my study so that list members could comment. Let´s pursue scholarly topics in a scholarly manner and post our comments accordingly.
BR
Rajan Menon
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Lalit Mishra <litsol@...> wrote:I am not a skeptic, but I have serious doubts on quality of strange researches, seeing the quality of Sanskrit that Witzel and Witzel's oponents exhibit, Eist and F Brighenty etc, Witzel says "Samudra" is confluence of rivers not the ocean, he has no idea how the word "Samudra" is formed, He has no idea how word "Sangam" is formed, Lets analyze it, "Samudra" is made of Sam ( Evenly) and Udra (Water), the formation denotes, a place where water remains even, looks evenly, Pls note, no flow or movement is added to "Udra", A person who has elementary knowledge of Sanskrit wd not do kind of mistake that Witzel does with all pump and show and repeates such mistakes at many places.Now, lets take "Sangam" that means "Confluence" not the "Ocean", Here is the right Vedic mantra that shows Vedic Rishis knew whats the "Cconfluence" or "Sangam" is in fact and how rivers makes "Sangam" or "Confluence" keeps the difference with "Samudra", Pls note word "Nadi" or "River" is specifically added to "Sangam" and formation is according to Pratishakhya rules, "Gam" in "Sangam" denotes flow thats absent in "Samudra.उपह्वरे गिरीणाम संगमे च नदीनाम । धिया विप्रो अजायत
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