Re: Raven words

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, johnvertical@ wrote:
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> > Background: I've been exploring some evidence for a possible unknown Uralic substrate in Finnic. One feature of this hypothetical substrate would be *w > pp after a liquid, e.g. _kärppä_ "stoat" vs. PU *käDwä "weasel".

> The ev. here:
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> http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/query.cgi?root=config&morpho=0&basename=\data\uralic\uralet
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> *käDwä "weasel"
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> *kaDwa "female (of small fur animals)"
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> Saam (Lapp): gaDfe (N) 'mustela erminea femina'
> Mari (Cheremis): kol'á 'mouse'
> Khanty (Ostyak): köjëN
> Mansi (Vogul): kal'
> Hungarian: hölgy 'Dame; (altung.) Braut, Liebste; Hermelin'
> etc.

That range of meanings seems to fit best w:

kaçi:ká:- (f) = young weasel RV S; akHis -i- = weasel Ar;
etc.

rel. to (probl.):

ka:kom \ ka:kum = stoat MP; ? >> qa:qum Tk; ? >> kHakHum \ kngum Ar;

w kHakHum apparently < * kHakYH(y)um w assim. to either both k or kY (shown by some modern forms like c^'ässEum ), but a direct rel. isn't clear.