Re: Raven words

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70954
Date: 2013-02-16

This is wonderful for an Indo-European list: onomatopoetics instead of
etymology, while as for *perkwu-s one likes a chain of loans and the
other one detects optional rules...

2013/2/16, Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>:
> All raven and crow words seem to be onomatopoeic in their remote origin,
> kra- gra-.
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> De: Tavi <oalexandre@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Sábado, 16 de Fevereiro de 2013 13:43
> Assunto: Re: [tied] Raven words
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:
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>> In Spanish, cuervo "crow" is the everyday word for "raven" but the archaic
>> word is cornejo. known to all who read El Cid in school. I'm sure Tavi and
>> João can fill us in on the rest of Ibero-Romance.
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> Spanish cornejo (m.) is 'dogwood', a diminutive from Latin cornus. The name
> of the bird is corneja (f.), a diminutive from Latin corni:x.
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> Also Catalan gralla (f.) refers either to Corvus frugileus (Spanish grajo,
> graja) or Corvus monedula (Spanish grajilla). This word is likely of
> onomatopoeyic origin, as in Catalan it also designates a woowind instrument.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gralla_%28instrument%29
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