Re: On Greek thalassa 'sea'

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70845
Date: 2013-01-30

Let's concede it, for the sake of the argument; what has it to do with
a post-PIE epenthetic /d/ in *h2nr- in a phonotactic context of the
shape /n_r/ (not /r_r/)?

2013/1/30, stlatos <sean@...>:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
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>> 2013/1/30, stlatos :
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>> >
>> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
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>> >> 2013/1/29, stlatos :
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since the obvious epenthetical plosive is voiced /d/, I fail to
>> >> >> understand
>> >> >> how could it be that we get a voiceless aspirate unless through a
>> >> >> sort
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> double sound shift by which one would expect at least /ph/ if not
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> more instead of /p/ of -pos
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > There are many words showing t/dH alt. before r:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > vártra-m S; vart = shield Os; vs
>> >> > várdhra-s = strap/girdle/belt S;
>> >>
>> >> two suffixes; if they have common origin, it's */th/, not */d/
>> >>
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>> >
>> > So the dif. between:
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>> > varatra:- = strap, várdhra-s = strap/girdle/belt S;
>> >
>> > isn't the -a-, but two suffixes -tro- and -dhro-? I doubt it. If this
>> > alt.
>> > is apparent within roots AND suffixes, then -tro- and -dhro- would be
>> > rel.
>> > just as andrós and ánthro:pos .
>>
>> *Bhr.: sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand Your argument
>>
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> If the only words in G that have -thron after C instead of V are:
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> térthron = *edge > end (of shipping yard) G;
> árthron = joint G;
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> and S has almost no -dhra- and shows variation like:
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> varatra:- = strap, várdhra-s = strap/girdle/belt S;
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> it's likely the env. r_r is the cause. Since other changes by _r are seen,
> 2 of them are even more likely to cause it.
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