Re: fortis , f- >>

From: stlatos
Message: 70522
Date: 2012-12-08

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
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> For instance (Oscan-Umbrian loanwords)?
>
> 2012/12/8, stlatos <sean@...>:
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> A doublet like <bortitz>/<portitz> from Lat. <fortis> in this view
> >> requires no intermediate language, merely an earlier and later stage of
> >> borrowing the same word.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I don't think 2 stages of borrowing are needed. If Bq. had no f, then
> > either f > p or f > v ( > b later) would be equally good substitutions.
> > This is sim. to how L. borrowed Osc-U. words with -v- as either -b- or -f-
> > (before w > v in L.).
> >


Sihler mentioned ro:bus : ru:fus, *londH- > lumbi: = loins (and some related words). He compared it to opt. OE borrowings of v (vannus > fann, v- > berbena, etc.). Either shows the reality of what I proposed.