Re: Exile of Roma founders from India c. 1405 years ago - Genetic st

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70496
Date: 2012-11-29

If You hold this example as a model for the spread of Indo-European
languages, Your own version of the Out-of-India Theory runs the risk
of looking quite similar to any other extremely migrationist
('tourist') approach and therefore to reduce the relevance of India to
just another candidate - among at least a dozen - to the role of
having being, by happy chance, the Urheimat of a dominant élite

2012/11/29, kalyan <kalyan97@...>:
> http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2012/11/exile-of-roma-founders-from-india-c_28.html
>
> Exile of Roma founders from India c. 1405 years ago - Genetic study
> in PLoS of Dr. Gyaneshwer Chaubey and team. Re-evaluate I-E/ANE
>  studies.
> Proponents of Aryan Invasion/Migration/Trickle-in/Tourist theorists
> should re-think and re-evaluate the formation of Indo-European
> languages after contacts between Hindu civilization people and
> .people of Ancient Near East.
> Congrats to Dr. Gyaneshwer Chaubey and Team for such a precisely
> calibrated genetic study.
> kalyanaraman
> Nov. 29, 2012
>
>
> CCMB traced the origin of Roma (Gypsy) population
>
> The origin and migration of Roma (Gypsy) has been curious among
> people across the world. Although the linguistic and genetic studies
> on European Roma have traced to Eurasia, the exact parental
> population group and time of dispersal has remained disputed. In the
> absence of archaeological evidence and with the availability of only
> scanty historical documentation of the Roma, have made the
> international team of scientists led by Dr Kumarasamy Thangaraj from
> the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology Hyderabad and Dr.
> Gyaneshwer Chaubey from Estonian Biocentre and Tartu University,
> Estonia; involving scientists from University of Bern, Switzerland,
> University of Cambridge, UK and Stanford University, USA to trace the
> founder of the European Roma, using the Y chromosome genetic
> signatures. This study has been published in the recent issue of the
> online journal PLoS one.
>
> Y chromosome is inherited from father to son; to grandson. Therefore,
> all the males of a family or a population evolved from a single
> founder male will possess the same Y chromosome. Based on the genetic
> signatures exist on the Y chromosome, every male could be assigned to
> a specific group (haplogroup), hence the paternal lineage can be
> traced, using these signatures.
>
> Previously it has been shown that the European Roma possessed the Y
> chromosome haplogroup H1a1a however, the most recent common ancestor
> of European Roma, has not been identified because of the absence of
> similar data from their putative homeland i.e. India.
>
> In this study, Scientists have screened approximately 10,000 males
> from around the world, includes 7000 males belonging to 205 ethnic
> populations of India, to discern a more precise ancestral source of
> European Romani (Gypsy) population.
>
> “We have compared the worldwide phylogeographical data, for Indian
> H1a1a haplotypes with Roma and concluded that the aboriginal
> scheduled tribes and scheduled caste populations of northwestern
> India, traditionally referred as the Doma and also known as ‘Dalits’,
> are the most likely ancestral populations of modern European Roma”,
> said Dr. Kumarasamy Thangaraj.
>
> “Our finding corroborate the hypothesised cognacy of the terms Rroma
> and Doma and resolve the controversy about the Gangetic plain and the
> Punjab in favour of the northwestern portion of the diffuse
> widespread range of the Doma ancestral population of northern India”,
> said Dr. George van Driem – a linguist from the University of Bern,
> Switzerland.
>
> “It is noteworthy the closest as well as matching haplotypes with the
> Roma haplotypes were found only in scheduled caste and scheduled
> tribe populations of Northwestern India appear to corroborate the
> linguistic evidence and the most recent reconstruction of the likely
> ethnolinguistic origins and affinities of the gypsies, based on
> linguistic and Indological studies” said Dr. Gyaneshwer Chaubey
> another member of this team.
>
> This study also estimated that the exile time of Roma founders from
> India was approximately 1405 years ago.
>
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