Re: What is "North Venetic"? (was: PIE suffix =t in food?)

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 70484
Date: 2012-11-24

*Venedic may be a better spelling, given that it refers to various tribes known as Venedi, etc. among the later Celts, Slav, etc. It may even the Vanir as the gods of a vanquished people. In any case, it may be a better name for NWB and the IE substrate of Central and NWestern Europe. Its sporadic appearance  as a tribal name may indicate assimilated groups of Venedic origin, or as in the case of the Wends, the word may be used in the same sense as Volcae > Welsh.

From: Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:33 AM
Subject: [tied] What is "North Venetic"? (was: PIE suffix =t in food?)

Hallo Indo-Europeanists!

On Friday 23 November 2012 02:25:40 johnvertical wrote:

> [...]
>
> > Anatolian and Tocharian are ruled out, but Venetic would work, with
> > vocalization of PIE syllabic */r./ to *-or- as in Latin.
>
> I see. But do we run into problems since this item is found in Mordvinic as
> well? How far east can North Venetic be assumed to have been spoken?

What is "North Venetic"?  And why does Venetic figure at all in
this discussion of language contact between IE and Uralic
languages?  The only Venetic I know of is an IE language of
ancient northeastern Italy that probably was closely related to
Italic - and *never* was spoken anywhere near *any* Uralic
language.

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