Re: elementum

From: Tavi
Message: 70187
Date: 2012-10-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> In Irene Balles' etymology they can be analyzed as related but different
> compounds:
> *h1sh2n-h1gw-n > sanguen
> *h1sh2n-h1gw-i-s > sanguis
>
> 1) Sanguis has both -i- and -i:- in the nominative, so the etymology
> does work for *-i-
> 2) Irene Balles text (Lateinische sanguis "Blut", in Compositiones
> Indogermanicae in memoriam Jochem Schindler. Herausgegeben von Heiner
> Eichner und Hans Christian uschützky unter redaktioneller Mitwirkung
> von Velizar Sadovski, S. 3-17) has precisely *-i-, so I had to report
> it correctly
> 3) In order to explain *-i-, a suffix *-in- would be a regular
> explanation, since its function is comparable with the one of both
> *-i- and *-n-.
>
> This is meant as contribution to the discussion
>
Like other people on this list, Balles follows the ortodox PIE model, so let me show you an alternative one.

IE *H1esH2-ºr-/-º-n- '(flowing) blood' is a *reduplicated* root corresponding to Kartvelian *zisx-l-/-r- 'blood' (see Gamkrelidze-Ivanov (1995): Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans). Apparently, the bare root *seH2-n- is found in Latin sa:nus 'healthy'.

This is an Eurasiatic root 'life, health; blood' also found in other language families:

Altaic *sè:gù 'healthy; blood'
NEC *ts´a:dK\wV 'blood; life'
IE *jak- 'health, cure' (Greek ákos, Celtic *jakk-)
 
Thus Latin sanguis 'blood' < *sangu- (with a nasal infix) derives from a -u- theme like Altaic and NEC, which is also reflected in Celtic -kk- by Kilday's (DGK) Law, as in e.g. sukko- 'pig' < *suqu > IE *suH-.

The palatal fricative j- (usually written as y- in the literature), typical in other Eastern words (which I think come from "Kurganic", i.e. the language(s) spoken by Kurgan people), corresponds to s- in Paleo-IE, usually (but not in this case) resulting from palatalization. Compare these words:

Altaic *tHákHì 'ceremony, sacrifice'
Paleo-IE *sa(n)k- (Hittite s^a:kl(a:)i- 'custom, rule; rite, ceremony', Latin sanctus 'sacred', sacer 'holy')
Kurganic *jag^- 'to honour, to worship' (Greek hágios 'holy', Sanskrit yájati 'worships')

I'd link them to NEC *=@qE 'to raise, to be high' (= stands for a class prefix), whose semantic motivation is that victims were *raised* over the altar in sacrifices. Also 'to sanctify' means 'to be raised to the altar of the saints'.