Re: elementum

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70178
Date: 2012-10-11

In Irene Balles' etymology they can be analyzed as related but different compounds:
*h1sh2n-h1gw-n > sanguen
*h1sh2n-h1gw-i-s > sanguis

2012/10/11 stlatos <sean@...>
 



--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:

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> > Also, your supposedly regular rule didn't work for alapus and alapa, w preserved -a-. For adsultus, w/o preserved -a-, there's no _P env. needed to follow the rule you created w TWO examples because you need total regularity. If there's more "phonetic complexity" I'm missing, let me know so I don't fall to far under the sway of opt. changes before I can be saved.
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> <alapa> 'palm of the hand; paddle of a water-wheel' is most likely an Etruscan loanword; cf. Etr. <alpan>, <alapn>, *alapan 'willingly' i.e. 'with palms out'.
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Even if alapa was an Etruscan loanword, it wouldn't necessarily avoid weakening, since weakening occurred even in early loans from Greek, like balaneion >> balineum (also w/o preserved -a-, against your supposedly regular rule).

An irregular rule is needed to show why accounts of OL show assara:tum = ~blood wine, but aser = blood. Even OL sanguen but L sangui:s suggest it goes far back if:

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ashargW ashan+
ashangW ashan+ (analogy; opt.)
ashangW ashangW+ (analogy)
ashan ashangW+
ashangWan ashangW+ (analogy)
ashangWan ashangWan+ (analogy)
as_angWan
asangWan
sangWan
sangWen

sangWen
sangWel (dis; opt.)
sangWel+s (analogy)
sangWels
sangWeys