From: Trond Engen
Message: 69661
Date: 2012-05-22
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com,Chez-le-Bart, a village in District de Boudry on the north shore of Lac
> Bhrihskwobhloukstroy<bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> DGK:
>>>> What is the stem of Bart (Piem., prov. Novara)? Both d'Arbois (Les
>>>> prem. inh. de l'Europe, 1894, 2:92) and Bottiglioni (Elem. prel.
>>>> della top. corsa, 1929, 62) considered it connected with Bartasca
>>>> (Cors., near Calvi), providing evidence for a Ligurian stratum in
>>>> Corsica.
>>>
>>> Bhrihskwobhloukstroy:
>>> Bartasca, river of Calvi and its valley, seems to imply a
>>> derivational stem *barto- or *barta- rather than *barti-, but of
>>> course that would be a minor difference (a matter of word-formation);
>>> Bart can in turn reflect *barto- (and indeed *barti-, albeit one
>>> would rather expect barc' ['barʧ] as most regular outcome), but not
>>> *barta-, which would remain unaltered.
>>
>> I still can't find Bart. I have both books, but they don't give any
>> precise location and the old Province Novara (nowadays comprising
>> both Novara and Verbania - Cusio - Ossola) was quite large in
>> d'Arbois' times.
>> Surely is Bart neither a Comune (= German Gemeinde) neither a
>> Frazione (a relatively big village of lower grade).
>> I don't want to give up, but the task is difficult
>
> DGK:
> Another Bart is mentioned in the index to Hammond's France Road Atlas,
> just east of the Swiss/French border in western Switzerland. (I
> cannot find the place on the map itself inside the square referenced
> by the index.) It is hard to believe the old Province Novara was this
> large. I hope this is not merely an error on d'Arbois's part which
> Dottin and Bottiglioni failed to catch. The latter was fairly fussy
> about the Corsican place-names with which he dealt in his monograph.