From: Torsten
Message: 69128
Date: 2012-03-31
>Well look at these then
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@>
> > wrote:
>
> >> At 6:16:33 PM on Thursday, March 29, 2012, Tavi wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >>> I'm afraid Latin isn't the only source of p- > Goidelic
> >>> *kW-. For example, Middle Irish céite 'hill, eminence,
> >>> open space, assembly' < Goidelic *kWantjo- 'hill', which
> >>> corresponds to the substrate root *pant- I mentioned
> >>> before.
>
> >> It's from PCelt. *kwantyo- 'flat hill', with normal
> >> developments in Goidelic and Brittonic.
>
> > Matasovic
> > Proto-Celtic: *kwantyo- 'flat hill' [Noun]
> > Old Irish: céite[io and iÄ, m and f] 'hill, open space'
> > Middle Welsh: pant 'valley'
> > Middle Breton: pantet (OBret.) gl. imminet
> > Proto-Indo-European: *kwem-t- 'hill'
> > IE cognates: Lat. cumulus 'hill', OE hwamm
> > Notes: The alternation between an io and an iÄ stem in OIr.
> > probably shows that this word is a substantivized adjective;
> > the original meaning could have been 'protruding' vel. sim.
> > The reading and the meaning of OBret. pantet are uncertain
> > (some read it as Lat. pandit).
> > References: LEIA C-58, DGVB 280, De Bernardo Stempel 1999: 273
>
> >> A substrate root in *p- is most unlikely.
>
> > Why?
>
> I should think it obvious. Look at the IE cognates.