Re: Polemon

> This might interest George Knysh:
>
> I came across this
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palemonids
> and the reference someone placed there to this guy
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polemon_(Cilicia)
> which some connect to Nero's amber expedition to the Baltic
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_in_Antiquity#Amber_Road
>
> If there was some truth to the story, it would have taken place in
> the 1st cent. CE. The lands of Polemon II matches those given to
> 'Odin' by Snorri and Saxo (on both sides of the Black Sea). Neither
> quote by Josephus given at the end of the Polemen article documents
> his whereabouts after Nero deposed him.
>

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
>
> Don't Polemon and Odin mean more or less the same thing? Polemon is
> something like "fighter"

Prellwitz:
πόλεμος, s. πελεμίζω;
πολεμέω, πολεμίζω führe Krieg,
πολέμιος feindlich.

πελεμίζω (Fut. -ξω) schwinge, schwenke, Med. erbebe :
got. us-filma erschrocken, us-filmei Schrecken,
an. fālma trepidare;
lat. pello treibe?
Hierher vielleicht
πόλεμoς, πτóλεμoς Krieg;
der Anlaut πτ ist hier ebenso unklar, wie in πτóλις.
Vgl. auch πάλλω, παλάμη?


> and Odin something like "wrath, fury,
> etc."?

but I also wanted to connected to words for "army" and "lead".
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/67442
(Croatian voda "army detachment", thus *wodin- would be a titel similar to *vožd- "(military) leader")

So they are both connected to both "fury" and "war". Seems you're on to something.

The whole scenario would explain the sudden appearance of a new upper class in Przeworsk, with Roman 'imported' grave goods and the fragmentation and eventual disappearnce of the Bastarnae, one fraction of which was the heavily armed Roman-influenced Zubritsky group.


Torsten