Re: Hercynian (again)

From: Torsten
Message: 68703
Date: 2012-03-02

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@...> wrote:
>
> At 5:14:56 AM on Thursday, March 1, 2012,
> Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
>
> > 2012/3/1, Brian M. Scott <bm.brian@...>:
>
> >> At 5:34:14 PM on Wednesday, February 29, 2012,
> >> Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
>
> >>> Yet it's quite curious that we find crash 'to fall with
> >>> a noise' apparently with the very *-sk- inchoative
> >>> suffix suffix and the root of crack 'to resound', Dutch
> >>> kraken, but Old High German krahhon with expected -hh-,
> >>> Armenian krkač̣ 'to make noise' again with /k/ =
> >>> Germanic /k/ and Lithuanian girgiždė́ti 'to creak', Old
> >>> Indic gárjati 'roars'. It really looks like a PIE
> >>> *grog'-sk'oh2
>
> >> It really looks like a Middle English echoic formation,
> >> parallel to <clash> and sharing a sound-symbolic final
> >> element with <dash>, <smash>, <splash>, etc.
>
> > If crash is of Middle English origin, how do You explain
> > the corresponding words in other languages?
>
> Outside of Continental Scandinavian, where they also seem to
> be late and look like parallel echoic formations, I see no
> corresponding words in other languages. In particular, I do
> not think that <crash> and <crack> are related by any
> regular derivational process.

Which words in Continental Scandinavian were you thinking of?

Torsten