Re: Kluge's Law in Italic? (was: Volcae and Volsci)

From: dgkilday57
Message: 68529
Date: 2012-02-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
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> > W dniu 2012-02-09 21:13, dgkilday57 pisze:
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> > > The old suggestion that this word comes from *telh2-
> > > 'lift, raise' by dissimilation of *tl@-dHla: (ib. 91, questionably) can
> > > be discarded, since zero-grade would have given Italic *tla:- as in Lat.
> > > <la:tus> 'carried'.
> >
> > Not as per Olsen, who claims that the laryngeal "preaspiration" was a
> > PIE phenomenon. The development of *l.h2 > *la: is of course dialectal.
> > One can therefore imagine something like *tl.h2-tlah2 > *tl.h2tHlah2 >
> > *t&tHlah2 (dissimilatory loss) > ... > tabula.
>
> What are the parade-examples for Olsen's dissimilatory aspiration? If it explains the short vowel of InIr for 'hoof', it would seem that the *h2 was absorbed going into PInIr.

Oops, I meant "laryngeal preaspiration", not "dissimilatory aspiration". Also, how does Olsen account for initial unvoiced aspirates in InIr? E.g. Sanskrit <phe'na-> 'foam', Ossetic <fink>; Skt. <kumbha'-> 'peak', Avestan <xumba->; Av. <Tanjayenti> 'they draw', <Tanvar-> 'bow' (apparently the only exx. with *tH-, Bartholomae reconstructed as *tHan,gW-).

DGK