Re: Octha or Ohta?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 68461
Date: 2012-01-31

W dniu 2012-01-31 21:39, dgkilday57 pisze:

> But the other preteritive presents show no reduplication, and this
> appears to be a conserved archaism, since OE <wa:t> corresponds to Lat.
> <vi:di:>, Grk. <oida>, Skt. <veda>, all without reduplication.

Well, unreduplicated (or dereduplicated) *woid-/*wid- is exceptional
already at the PIE level. Whatever the correct explanation of the length
in Goth. o:gan, Germanic has a lengthened grade beside *aG- in this
family of words, and *o:G- _is_ one of the nine or so Germanic
preterite-presents with secure IE etymologies. A minor umlaut pattern
like PIE *a: ~ *a (as in Jasanoff's "*a:-perfects") is another
possibility, but if so, I would expect the strong allomorph e.g. in the
associated s-stem, which has a short vowel both in Gk. √°kHos and in
Germanic *aGiz- 'fear' (Goth. agis, OE ege, etc.), hence my marginal
preference for Ringe's reduplication analysis.

As for <magan>, LIV (Zehnder) reconstructs a PIE root present *magH-
with invariable vocalism and treats plural forms like OHG, OS, OFris.
mugun as late and analogical. This verb is one mighty can of worms :)