Re: kludge (klots (churlish), clot, clod, gluten, chalk, clay, and

From: Torsten
Message: 68327
Date: 2011-12-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "guestu5er" <guestuser.0x9357@...> wrote:
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> >plate # 3 glT = a clot, coagulation.
> >
> >plate # 4 gldh = a clod, hardened clay
> >
> >plate # 5 ghlth = gluten
>
> In Romanian, glod [glod] means both "clod, mud" and "lump"; its
> origin is unclear; it is compared with Russian gluda and Hungarian
> galád. But it's obvious that it belongs to this word family.
> And the word cheag [keag, kyag or k'ag] "coagulation", for whose
> etymology an intermediate Lat. *clagum < coagulum has been assumed.
>
> >plate # 6 khlq = clay
> >
> >plate = 7 glf = clay
> >
> >plate # 8 kls = chalk, clay, lime and or calcination process
> >in Alchemy
>
> Engl. chalk, Ger. Kalk < Lat. calx, calc- (-arius), Gr. chalix...
>
> >PARALLEL WORLD?
> >
> >Finally, the only remaining remark worthy of mentioning on this
> >subject is the unusual respective similarities of I.E. terms with
> >those found in Classical Arabic which, as you all know, is from an
> >unrelated family language.
>
> Perhaps classical Arabic has a PIE substrate! :-) (Some have said
> that ancient Middle Eastern Semitic language had such a substrate.)
>

Perhaps Klotz "wooden block; bad worker" with its two senses are related here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66821

cf.
http://woerterbuchnetz.de/DWB/?sigle=DWB&mode=Vernetzung&lemid=GK08046

'b) klotz am beine, den gefangene, sträflinge angeschmiedet bekommen und mit sich schleppen müssen. '



Torsten