Re: *ka/unt- etc, new conquests (HUNT &, HOUND etc.)

From: The Egyptian Chronicles
Message: 68262
Date: 2011-12-11

TORSTEN wrote:
 
And we certainly shouldn't forget the most typical of all, those from the whole *ka/unt- etc complex: Eng. hunt with original /u/ vs. Gothic hinþan, Sw hinna which are reorganized as a class III strong verb.
 
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Re the Estonian comitative suffix -ga, did I mention the Latin postposition (with pronouns) -cum "with"?
Which reminds me
 
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Note Engl. and, German und; a/u alternation; form *(h)a/und-? As for the high decades in Gothic and OE: In some Gmc languages the ones are before the tens: German 'ein und siebzig' etc, in others it's the other way round: 'seventy one', or it might have been 'seventy and one'. There's your 'hund': someone left it on when there are zero ones. The 'hund' might as well be interpreted here as a comitative suffix as the word "and", or perhaps the historical development was just that: "crowd, war/hunting party" -> comitative suffix -> "and".
 
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Arnaud pointed out the similarity Engl. hunt ~Mordv. kunda "catch".It seems to be bigger than that.
 
 
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ISHINAN:  You are correct, it is much bigger than Arnaud suggested.
 
The following is a comparison with Classical Arabic, often passed over.
 
1) Ar. qns.,  2) Ar. qannAs., qAnis., 
 
respectively:
 
1) to hunt, catch, ensnare, entrap, capture and snatch.
 
2) a hunter
 
3)Ar.  h.nsh: to hunt, to catch.
 
4) Ar. h.nn / gnn = Mythical black hounds, dogs
 
 
 
You can review the complete dictionary definitions in both Arabic and English by clicking the following URL:
 
www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/HUNT.html
 
 
 
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hunt (n.) early 12c., from hunt (v.). Meaning "body of persons associated for the purpose of hunting with a pack of hounds" is first recorded 1570s.
 
hunter mid-13c. (attested in place names from late 12c.), from hunt + -er (1). The O.E. word was hunta.
 
hunt (v.) O.E. huntian "chase game," related to hentan "to seize," from P.Gmc. *huntojan (cf. Goth. hinþan "to seize, capture," O.H.G. hunda "booty"), from PIE *kend-. General sense of "search diligently" (for anything) is first recorded c.1200. Related: Hunted; hunting.

huntian; p. ode To hunt :-- Ic ásende míne fisceras and gefixiaþ míne huntan and huntiaþ hi of aelcere dúne and of aelcere hylle I will send for many fishers and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters and they shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill [A. V. Jer. 56, 56], Homl. Th. i. 576, 28. Gif him þince ðæt huntige beorge him georne wið his fýnd if he fancies that he is hunting, let him guard himself well against his foes, Lchdm. iii. 172, 19. Ne canst ðú huntian búton nettum nescis venari nisi cum retibus, Coll. Monast. Th. 21, 21. Ic fare huntian venatum pergo, Ælfc. Gr. 24; Som. 25, 10. Huntigendra venantium, Ps. Spl. 90, 3 : 123, 6.