Re: *daŋ-, *sweŋ-, *graŋ-

> Proposal:
> (I'm not decided on whether I'll use a vowel plus ŋ (-Vŋ-) or a nasalized vowel (-VN-) in the recontructions)
>
>
> *daŋ-/daN- > *daw-
> *daŋ-/daN- > *daNk- > *dak-
> *daŋ-/daN- + -sk- > dansk
> (*daŋ-isk´- > *duŋIsk´- > Pol. duńsk-)
> (*daŋ-yan-> *daNk-yan- > *dačan-)
>
> *sweŋ-/sweN- > *swew-
> *sweŋ-/sweN- > *sweNk- > *swek- (Sueci)
> *sweŋ-/sweN- + -sk- > *svensk
>
> *graŋ-/*graN- > *graw- > *grai, grae
> *graŋ-/graN- > *graŋk- > *graek-
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacians
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian#Substratum_of_Proto-Romanian
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_language#.28Old.29_Albanian
> (the Old Albanian referred to here would be Dacian; note that the
> diagnostic suffixed definite article is also a feature of of North
> Germanic minus Vestjysk and would be just as indicative of a Dacian
> substrate, cf the thread starting in
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/9815
> )
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danes_(Germanic_tribe)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danes
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_tongue
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane%C5%9F (??)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suevi
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes_(Germanic_tribe)
> (note all the *sven- side forms)
> http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=swain&searchmode=none
>
> (cf. Kretschmer above)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks#Names (see Greeks)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graea
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeae
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crone (?)
>
> The choices of Dak- Graek- over Dai-, Grae- as reflects of *daŋ-,
> *graŋ- seem to have taken place at about the same time.
>
>
> which BTW vindicates (I think) my derivation of crassus, grossus etc
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66586
> as a participle *gr-áŋ- "grown old, ripe, juicy". What verbs *d-áŋ-, > *sw-éŋ could be participles of is difficult to know. Words so short
> are suspect of being back formations from compounds, in casu
> 1) from the *-daŋ occurring in the Dacian towns in -dava (the town
> name then being the name of its people)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dacian_cities#Dacian
> and in the various -danes mentioned in Beowulf (Spear-danes,
> East-danes, West-danes etc),
> http://www.heorot.dk/beowulf-rede-notes.html
> *-daŋ being ultimately cognate to Celtic dun-, Germanic *tun-?),
> 2) and from the *-sweŋ (swain) occuring in eg boatswain (used much
> more in eg. Danish, cf. eg. 'svend' "master craftsman"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman
> corresponding to the German term 'Geselle'
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman#Germany
> used in compounds: slagtersvend, murersvend, bagersvend etc
> ).
>
> All this adds up to Dacians (Free Dacians?)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Dacians
> making up part of either the 10 BCE or 250 CE (Brøndsted, as emended
> by me) invasion of Denmark, see quote here:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66612
> The main difference between Thracians and Dacians would be that the
> former slave-traded the latter. If so, the Burebista
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burebista
> regime, made possible by the discovery of gold(?)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_bracelets
> or by reserving gold for the king's use alone(?)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia#Occupations
> would have been an economic disaster to Thracian slave-traders.
>

Strabo 6.3.1
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/6c*.html
'Now that I have traversed the regions of Old Italy as far as Metapontium, I must speak of those that border on them. And Iapygia borders on them. The Greeks call it Messapia, also, but the natives, dividing it into two parts, call one part (that about the Iapygian Cape) the country of the Salentini, and the other the country of the Calabri. Above these latter, on the north, are the Peucetii and also those people who in the Greek language are called Daunii, but the natives give the name Apulia to the whole country that comes after that of the Calabri, though some of them, particularly the Peucetii, are called Poedicli also. Messapia forms a sort of peninsula, since it is enclosed by the isthmus that extends from Brentesium as far as Taras, three hundred and ten stadia.'

If
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Albanian#.28Old.29_Albanian
is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daco-Thracian
then the Daunii (Dauoi?) may have spoken Old
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arb%C3%ABresh%C3%AB


Torsten