Re: The Bastarnians

From: george knysh
Message: 67532
Date: 2011-05-11


From: Torsten <tgpedersen@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: The Bastarnians

 

 to P/L?

> His information here (in any case) is about the situation of ca. 100
> BCE, or generally from the time of Mithradates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographica
'Work can have begun on it no earlier than 20 BC. A first edition was published in 7 BC followed by a gap, resumption of work and a final edition no later than 23 AD... .'
****GK: Yes as to time of composition. Apparently his sources were somewhat older (I suspect Posidonius).***
Strabo Geographica 7.1.13
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/7C*.html
'In the interior dwell, first, those Bastarnians whose country borders on that of the Tyregetans and Germans â€" they also being, one might say, of Germanic stock; and they are divided up into several tribes, for a part of them are called Atmoni and Sidoni, while those who took possession of Peuce, the island in the Ister, are called "Peucini," whereas the "Roxolani" (the most northerly of them all) roam the plains between the Tanaïs and the Borysthenes.'

The question is: when did the Peucini take possession of Peuce?
****GK: Exactly. I'm musing on this.  Ps. Scymnos calls them "arrivals" or "arriving migrants" which is ambiguous enough. If they were there in 133-116, they must have been subjects of Skilur at that time (according to the Neapolis inscription).***
 After they were split off from the Atmoni and Sidoni by Burebista (or the Carpi?) or sooner?
****GK: Thinking...***
 
 And what are those Thracian Sithones and Galaioi doing on the Aegean?
 

Torsten