Re: Tudrus

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 67022
Date: 2011-01-02




From: Torsten <tgpedersen@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 6:50:13 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Tudrus

 



> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_(name)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(name)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_(name)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdan
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric
> > should not be confused, but it doesn't seem to bother Wexler
> > (Tudru-ri:k-, king Tudrus?).
> > ***R but Theodoric < Thiuderich (vel sim) is a confusion in an of
> > itself
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> Erh, meaning...?
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> ***I've seen lots of popular texts gloss Thiuderich "People's King"
> (vel sim) as Theodoric "Gift of God" --esp. the first barbarian king
> of Italy

That's the standard interpretation. also in Wikipedia
There is a suffix *-ri:k in
German Enterich, Da. andrik, Engl. drake (*and- "duck")
Da. skiderik "creep, *sshole" (skide "shit")
Da. fulderik "drunk person" (fuld "drunk")
Dutch vieserik "disgusting person" (vies "dirty")
possibly Gothic Ermanaric(?)
although they are traditionally derived separately from anthroponyms in *-ri:k). I wonder if Brian knows something about it?

Formed as masc. to Theodora (cf. German Ente/Enterich)?

Torsten

In grad school, I was told that Thiuderic meant "People's King, Army King" but that it was glossed as Teodoric based on folk etymology to pass him off as a non-barbarian with a Greek name. But many modern texts do claim that Thiuderic  somehow is the same name as Theodoros