Res: [tied] Re: Germanic - maran/Gothic -mara

From: Torsten
Message: 66915
Date: 2010-12-02

> At 6:44:26 PM on Tuesday, November 30, 2010, Ton Sales
> wrote:
>
> > Responding to Brian and João:
>
> > Germanic Wigamera (soon contracted into Wigmera) appears
> > as "Latin" Vimaranus in Historia compostelana (1586).
>
> In other words, <Wigmera(n)> *isn't* attested; it's
> inferred, from such forms as <Wimar> 688, 697, <Vimara> 841,
> <(Lucidii) Vimarani> 870, <Uimaran> 925, <Guimar> 980,
> <Guimara> 829, and many others noted in Piel & Kremer.
> While I think it likely that it is from some dithematic name
> in *wi:g-, this seems to be less than certain.
>
> Brian
> Given the Portuguese form, it has to be *Wi(g)maranis,
> *Wi(g)maranes with intervocalic /n/. The only other possibility
> would be a scribal error leading to *Wi(g)maralis, *Wi(g)marales.
> There is a Medieval Ibero-Romance form Guiomar, that occasionally
> crops up as a name in Spanish and Portuguese --but the spelling on
> this one may suggest *Wilmar (because of Portuguese /l/ > /w/ --
> although I don't know when that kicked in)
>
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
>
> Guiomar/Guimar is a female name, and I've found references that
> it's a Breton name, Guiomarch.


FWIW
Roland Ottebjörk
Svenska förnamn
(number in parentheses is year first documented in Sweden)

Vilmar (1830) German name, Old German Willimar, compounded from words for "will" and "famous". A side form Vilmer (1870) may be formed on the pattern of Hilmer. Both forms are usually seen as masc. to the female Vilma.

Vimar (1873) newly formed name, which may correspond to OSw. Vigmar.



Torsten