Re: Optional Soundlaws (was: IE *aidh- > *aus-tr- 'hot, warm (wind)'

From: Torsten
Message: 66818
Date: 2010-10-26

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Etherman23" <etherman23@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Etherman23" <etherman23@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
> > > > > I would have to be a phonological hippie to buy into the
> > > > > notion of "optional soundlaws". No rocket science is
> > > > > required to see that any word in any language could be
> > > > > derived from any word in the same or any other language,
> > > > > merely by tailoring the "optional soundlaws" to achieve the
> > > > > desired result. Philology would collapse into anarchy.
> > > >
> > > > While acknowledging an optional sound law is an admission of
> > > > defeat, and any explanation that depends on one is thereby
> > > > weakened, they do appear to be real. Good examples of
> > > > optional sound laws include:
> > > >
> > > > 1) The Modern English 3-way split of the reflex of OE o:, e.g.
> > > > Modern English _blood_, _good_ and _mood_.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Classical Latin /ae/ merging with /e:/ ('rustic') or /e/ in
> > > > Romance.
> > >
> > > Let's not forget the "optional sound law" d > l in Latin found
> > > in the words:
> > >
> > > lacrima < dacruma
> > > lingua < dingua
> > > le:vir < *daiwer
> > >
> >
> > No problem. I solved that a long time ago, at least two of them.
> > Cf. the thread starting in
> > http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/10861
>
> If the solution is that there was an initial dl cluster then how
> come that cluster is not reflected in Old Latin, which allows other
> initial clusters?

But the same gloss does appear as stl- elsewhere in Latin.
http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66013
http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/56302


Torsten