Re: 'dyeus'

From: Torsten
Message: 66659
Date: 2010-09-27

> http://tinyurl.com/39smyu4
> PDF:
> http://www.ricerchefilosofiche.it/files/God-Fearers.pdf
> Although he denies a connection of these Sabians to Sabines and
> Samnites (he even denies the validity of the reconstructed PIE), I
> wonder if there mightn't have been. That would then be much older,
> but it might be connected with the strange dispersion into the world
> of the "seven" word we followed in this group a long time ago, eg.
> in connection with identifying days of a week with the sun, moon and
> five known planets to make a seven-day week. This article discusses
> the possibility of connecting seven and Sabaoth
> http://tinyurl.com/2wsh6dv
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaoth#YHWH_Tzevaot
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabazius
>
> Obviously nothing linguistic stands in the way of a Greek instead of
> a Roman origin of the Germanic names of the days of the week
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week-day_names#Germanic_languages
> German Samstag
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samstag
> seems to fit even better; perhaps not 'vulgärgriechisch', but some
> older connection with that mysterious *saŋ- (> *sabb-, *samb-).

Orël & Stol'bova
Hamito-Semitic Etymological Dictionary


2328 *ŝam- "burn; lightning"

Eg Å¡m, Å¡mm "be hot, be burning" (OK).

Berb *sam- "lightning":
Ahg e-ssam,
Ndir i-ssim,
Fgg u-səm.
Secondary -i- in Ndir.


2329 *ŝam- "sun"

Sem:
Akk šamšu "sun",
Hbr šemeš "sun",
Aram (Syr) šemš- "sun",
Arab Å¡ams- "sun",
SAr ŝmš "sun",
Tgr šāmš "sun",
Soq Å¡am "sun",
Jib sum "sun-heat".
Partial reduplication and dissimilation from *śamś-.

Eg sšm.t "moon-disc" (gr).
sš- reflects *ŝ-.

WCh *ŝam- "sun":
Ang lem.

Related to *ŝam- "burn; lightning".


2336 *ŝip- "light, day"
Eg sšp "light" (MK).
Note sš- < *ŝ-.

Berb *sVf- "day":
Ghd a-sef,
Ahg essef.

WCh *ŝip- "light":
Ang mege-ləp,
Pero lip.

Related to *ŝVp- "shine, be light".


2337 *ŝob- "set fire"
Sem *śub-:
Akk šabābu "burn, be hot",
Arab Å¡bb [-u-] "set fire",
Soq Å¡bb "warm" (v.).

WCh *ŝa(m)b-:
Ang lap lap "take fire",
Tng lamb- "set fire".
Secondary *-a- < *-wa-.

ECh *Å¡wab- "flame" (v.):
Bid `olob.


2338 *ŝuf- "heat, boil"

WCh *ŝafaf- "heat up, make hot":
Hs zāfafā.
Partial reduplication with modified vocalism.

Rift *ŝuf- "boil":
Asa ŝuf-.


2340 *ŝVp- "shine, be light"

Eg sšp "be light" (pyr).
sš- reflects *ŝ-.

WCh *ŝVp- "shine":
Sura ləp.


2341 *ŝVw- "light, lightning"

Eg Å¡w "light, sun" (NK).

CCh *`a-z^Vw- "lightning":
Daba az^əw.
Prefix *`a-.


Those are the alternations *saŋ- produces in IE too:
a/u 'ablaut',
pre- and non-pre-nasalized.

Obviously AfroAsiatic is not the origin of this word complex.



Torsten