Re: Implications of Bangani

From: johnvertical@...
Message: 66467
Date: 2010-08-18

> The existence of Khowar òhts 'bear' makes it likely that Finnish otso \ ohto was borrowed from an Indo-Iranian l. like Kh, possibly even proto-Kh.

No, _otso_ is a recent hypercorrection based on _ohto_ (cf. Tampere dialectal _ketsu_ pro _kettu_ "fox"), which derives from older *okti . The unsuffix'd form _oksi_, gen. _ohden_, has been depreciated for taboo reasons but survives in placenames.

Also cf. Mordvinic _ovto_ (where -o would be regular from either of -o and -i).

The IE original needed to explain this *whole* bundle would need a shape similar to *okti; that some Dardic language happens to have a reflex that also has -tso is clearly nothing but a coincidence.

John Vertical