Res: [tied] Re: Latin -u/o/i-lentus < *PIE - went-?

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 66383
Date: 2010-08-02

Quote from Sverre Johnsen:

e.g.Hittite happar-‘trade;payment’,happina-'rich’,Latin opulentus ‘rich’, Vedic
ápnas- ‘property’.

opulentus < *op-el-ento < *op-en-ento-

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~johnsen/files/aba%20UCLA.pdf

JS Lopes





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De: stlatos <stlatos@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Domingo, 1 de Agosto de 2010 18:28:35
Assunto: [tied] Re: Latin -u/o/i-lentus < *PIE - went-?




--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:
>

> L-w > L-L
>
> *LewkYument- > *LowqYuwent- > *LoukYuLent- > lu:culentus
>
>
> so not in cruentus
>
>
> and analogy in most.
>
>
>
> If the explanation is dif. and doesn't involve analogy, I'd just say opt. of

>the type I've mentioned before.

The order of the changes could explain why lu:culentus not *lu:curentus (if l-l
> l-r before L-w > L-L), assuming it's not a very recent form.

The possible change w-m > w-w in:

*LewkYument- > *LowqYuwent-

could exist, but isn't needed since opt. w > m and opt. m > w in all IE like:

*
pYle_w-xY_-d.ó+
pYle_w-xY_-d.Hó+
pYlöw-i-d.Hó+m
plow-i-tHó+m
plow-ë-tHó+m
plow-tHó+m
plow-Tó+m
plow-fó+m
plow-vó+m
plow-bó+m
plom-bó+m
plumbum = lead L;

*
pYlöw-i-d.Há:x
pYlöw-y-d.Há:x
pYlöw-d.Hyá:x
pYlow-dHi-yá:
XWlow-dHi-yá:
luaide MI; luaidhe = lead I;

or

*
pYlöw-i-d.Há:x
pYlöw-ï-d.Há:x
pYlöw-ë-d.Há:x
pYlöw-d.Há:x
etc.

with the affix commonly found in metals +y = in/part of = (made) of? or in
(ground/earth).