Re: The etymology of herold

From: Torsten
Message: 65649
Date: 2010-01-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
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> At 5:08:35 AM on Wednesday, January 13, 2010, Torsten wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Pavel A. da Mek"
> > <a.da_mek0@> wrote:
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> >>> Does anyone know the etymology of "herold"?
>
> >> herald
> >> c.1276 (in Anglo-Latin), "messenger, envoy," from
> >> Anglo-Fr. heraud, from O.Fr. heraut, hiraut, perhaps from
> >> Frank. *hariwald "commander of an army," from P.Gmc.
> >> *kharjaz "army" (from PIE root *koro- "war") + *wald- "to
> >> command, rule." The form fits, but the sense evolution is
> >> difficult to explain, unless in ref. to the chief officer
> >> of a tournament, who introduced knights and made
> >> decisions on rules. The verb is c.1384, from the noun.
> >> Heraldry "art of arms and armorial bearings" is first
> >> recorded 1390, as heraldy, from O.Fr. hiraudie, from
> >> hiraut, originally "heralds collectively." The spelling
> >> with -r- is attested from 1572 (cf. poetry, pedantry).
> >> ///
>
> > Wouldn't one expect **xarja-wald-, not *xari-wald?
>
> In PGmc., but not in OFrk.

That is interesting. Could you to elaborate on that?


Torsten