Re: Morimarusa

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

>
> At 11:55:21 AM on Sunday, December 27, 2009, Torsten wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > On a tangent: preserved *k- in
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katzenelnbogen#Etymology
> > it seems.
>
> Not really.
>
> Although Tischner is a bit of a nut ('Beim Vergleich der
> alten Sprachen Europas, Westasiens und Nordafrikas lassen
> sich viele gemeinsame Wurzeln rekonstruieren, die auf eine
> gemeinsame Grundsprache wohl noch ins Mesolithikum
> zurückgeht. Ich nenne diese Grundsprache in Anlehnung an die
> Bibel "noachitisch"'), the information at
> <http://www.heinrich-tischner.de/22-sp/8namen/1ort/siedlung/kazeneln.htm>
> seems to be reasonably well-supported.

Yes, he has nailed it, and provided a detailed account of the false derivation from <Chatti>. I have not seen any of his long-range stuff, but "noachitisch" is an unfortunate choice for serious work these days.

Having done some poking around at <Chatti> and <Mattium>, I have not found a credible continuation of <Chatti> at all. The name seems to have died out when the remnants of the tribe merged into the Franks. The name <Hassi>, <Hessi>, etc. (first <ad Chassus> 699) cannot be the same, despite valiant attempts by several scholars to rationalize the -ss-. This is in contrast to <Chattuarii>, which does have several secure continuations.

> See also the first paragraph of
> <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melibocus>, though the OHG
> word in question may actually OSax. <malsc> 'proud' (cf.
> ndrh. <malsch>, <malz> 'kühn, verwegen').

In that case 'swollen' not 'steep', which would fit the photograph better, I suppose.

DGK