Re : [tied] Re: Morimarusa

From: dgkilday57
Message: 65541
Date: 2009-12-18

--- In, patrick cuadrado <dicoceltique@...> wrote:
> if Morimarusa = death sea is a celtic name
> why Cimbri is Germanic name
> Old Irish Cimbid = a prisoner/tribute, the cimbri = the thieves = brigands cf breton Kemer = to take/To get *proto celtic Kombero
> but IE Kimm = Rim 
> and English Hem = edge
> here

Very polemical and selective. In regard to <Morimarusa>, Faux merely repeats the material which agrees with his a-priori belief that the Cimbri were Celtic, and ignores the detailed morphology. Celtic has no feminine *mori:- 'sea', only the neuter *mori, and no trace of the perfect active participle in *-us-. Germanic languages preserve both. The only plausible way of explaining <Morimarusa> as Celtic is by assuming a Germanic substrate, as Streitberg does (IF 14:490-3, 1903). I find the Celtic stage unnecessary, as Philemon is early enough for unshifted Proto-Germanic, and */@r/ could easily have been rendered as /ar/ by Greeks in the 4th c. BCE.

So the Gundestrup cauldron has Celtic imagery. Cauldrons can be imported, and imagery can come from external sources. Faux has not brought us any convincing reason to think of the Cimbri as Celtic.